The Lies That Bind

 Years ago at a writer’s conference I was confronted by a pastor who demanded to know why I promoted lies to God’s family. As you can imagine, I was somewhat taken aback at this accusation and asked the irate man to explain what he meant.

“Those books you write. Those novels. They’re lies!”

I pointed out that if I was lying by telling stories, then so was Christ seeing as He did the same with the parables.

The man roared out, “That’s entirely different!”, and stormed off.

I don’t know why I thought about that exchange lately, but I’m glad I did because the encounter this man and I had was, indeed, about lies. But not because of fiction. It was about an obstacle that hits writers where they live, and that’s lies thrown at us under the guise of God’s truth. How many of us have been slapped at by self-appointed guardians of the truth?

“Novels are lies!”

 “You’re stealing time from your family to write!”

“What do you mean you can’t take on (fill in the volunteer opportunity)? It’s not like you have a real job.”

“Why would anyone buy a book you’ve written? You don’t have anything new to say?”

And on and on they go.

And then there are the far more damaging lies. The ones whispered to us in the darkness of our minds and souls…

God would never ask someone like you to write a book for Him.

Look how long you’ve been working on this book! And nothing has happened. You should just give up.

Nothing you have to say matters.

That writer got a contract in a year. What’s wrong with you?

Friends, it’s time to stop listening to the lies. Time to close your ears to ignorant and hurtful comments, whether they come from outside or in. It’s time to turn to the TRUTH, to embrace it and immerse yourself in it. It’s time to remember Who gave you this task, and what HE has to say about you and your work. Come to the One True source of Truth, and let His words dwell within you to put an end to Writer’s Obstacle #6: Lies

1 Kings 3:9, 12—Give me an understanding heart so that I can govern your people well and know the difference between right and wrong…”I will give you what you asked for! I will give you a wise and understanding heart such as no one else has had or ever will have!”

Ezekiel 3:10-11–Then he added, “Son of man, let all my words sink deep into your own heart first. Listen to them carefully for yourself.”

Job 12:13—But true wisdom and power are found in God; counsel and understanding are his.

Psalm 12:7—Therefore, Lord, we know you will protect the oppressed, preserving them forever from this lying generation,

Psalm 86: 11-13– Teach me your ways, O Lord, that I may live according to your truth!
Grant me purity of heart, so that I may honor you. With all my heart I will praise you, O Lord my God.

Psalm 119:29—Keep me from lying to myself; give me the privilege of knowing your instructions.

Psalm 119:161-168–Powerful people harass me without cause, but my heart trembles only at your word. I rejoice in your word like one who discovers a great treasure. I hate and abhor all falsehood, but I love your instructions…Those who love your instructions have great peace and do not stumble. I long for your rescue, Lord, so I have obeyed your commands. I have obeyed your laws, for I love them very much. Yes, I obey your commandments and laws because you know everything I do.

Matthew 13:12–To those who listen to my teaching, more understanding will be given, and they will have an abundance of knowledge.

John 17: 13-14, 17-19—“Now I am coming to you. I told them many things while I was with them in this world so they would be filled with my joy.  I have given them your word. And the world hates them because they do not belong to the world, just as I do not belong to the world…Make them holy by your truth; teach them your word, which is truth.  Just as you sent me into the world, I am sending them into the world.  And I give myself as a holy sacrifice for them so they can be made holy by your truth.

 

 

65 Responses to The Lies That Bind

  1. Laura May 10, 2017 at 4:55 am #

    Thank you for this, Karen. The timing couldn’t be more perfect. Just yesterday I was thinking I should just give up the whole fiction-writing thing. As I read your post, I recognized some of the lies I’d been hearing whispered in my ear. So thank you for telling the truth at just the right time.

    • Karen Ball May 12, 2017 at 10:47 am #

      I’m so glad you didn’t give up, Laura.

  2. Diana Harkness May 10, 2017 at 5:16 am #

    I am so sorry that happened to you. I have read more truth in fiction than in some books masquerading as non-fiction. Last week’s message at church dealt with some of the lies women are told by taking scripture out of context. http://www.vineyardcolumbus.org/watch-listen/messages/what-does-the-bible-really-teach-about-women-leading-in-the-church/ I was bound and confused by those for many years. Integrity in fiction and non-fiction, in prose and poetry, should be the mark of every Christian writer.

    • Karen Ball May 12, 2017 at 10:49 am #

      “Integrity in fiction and non-fiction, in prose and poetry, should be the mark of every Christian writer.”

      Amen, Diana.

  3. Chris Storm May 10, 2017 at 5:17 am #

    I love this! Many years ago I attended my first writer’s conference, and at dinner someone said mockingly, “God told me to write this.” The whole table burst into laughter, but I sat silently, thinking–You silly humans, do you really believe that the Almighty God can’t speak to the simple man he created? Thank you God, for loving us enough to stoop down low to talk to us, to whisper words within our hearts, within our dreams, in the voice of our pastor or friend, tucked inside your holy scripture, and sometimes right out loud.

    • Joey Rudder May 10, 2017 at 9:30 am #

      Amen! Chris, I completely agree with you. God can speak to us in any way He chooses, and I’m so thankful! I feel sorry for those who don’t believe that. They’re missing out on a lovely and intimate part of having a relationship with Him.

    • Carol Ashby May 10, 2017 at 10:40 am #

      Chris, maybe the ones who mocked hadn’t experienced the delight themselves of knowing what they were writing was from God. Many of the folks here know He does give us things to write, and we try to write them the very best we can with His guidance.

  4. Robin Patchen May 10, 2017 at 5:27 am #

    Well said, Karen. The only way to combat the enemy’s lies is with the Sword of Truth.

    I was just reviewing Daniel 11:32 today, which says in part: “People who know their God will stand firm and take action.”

    And Nehemiah 6:9 reads: “For they all wanted to frighten us, thinking, ‘Their hands will drop from the work, and it will not be done.’ But now, O God, strengthen my hands.”

    Those are two verses that have spoken to me when I’ve been bombarded by lies. They remind me to trust God and keep doing what He has told me to do.

    • Karen Ball May 12, 2017 at 10:53 am #

      I especially like the Nehemiah verse. It reminds us that no matter how scary things are, our God has told us “Be not afraid.” Powerful!

  5. Judith Robl May 10, 2017 at 5:28 am #

    Thank you, Karen. Just thank you.

    • Karen Ball May 12, 2017 at 10:54 am #

      Judith and Jennifer, you are welcome. I’m so grateful it spoke to you.

  6. Jennifer Hallmark May 10, 2017 at 5:30 am #

    Thank you. I needed this today ☺

  7. Beth K Vogt May 10, 2017 at 5:44 am #

    Psalm 119:29—Keep me from lying to myself; give me the privilege of knowing your instructions.

    That Truth jumped on the page at me. So often we lie to ourselves by repeating the lies other people have told us, over and over again.

    Thank you for your powerful post.

    • Karen Ball May 12, 2017 at 10:56 am #

      We do indeed, and when I catch myself doing that, I just want to pound my head on the desk. 😛 Thank God we can go to Him and ask to be set free from those pervasive lies in our hearts.

  8. Natalie Hidalgo May 10, 2017 at 5:50 am #

    Aw, this is just what I needed. It is taking me years to finish my first novel and after running an in home daycare I get to the end of the 10 + hour work day and I hear these lies. I can’t give up now, I am months away from my first conference!

    • Karen Ball May 12, 2017 at 10:58 am #

      Natalie, just relax and enjoy the conference. Remember, it’s all about God’s agenda, not yours. If you see the editors and agents as people, and seek what God has for you, you’ll come away blessed and refreshed. And don’t forget to rest when you need to do so.

      I love writers’ conferences! Hope you will too.

  9. Galadriel Grace May 10, 2017 at 5:55 am #

    Karen, thank you for this post. I was also having some discouraging thoughts regarding writing recently and this post couldn’t have been more timely for me.

    God bless you!

  10. Rebekah Dorris May 10, 2017 at 5:55 am #

    I needed this too. Thank you.

    • Karen Ball May 12, 2017 at 10:59 am #

      Rebecca and Galadriel, you’re welcome. May God touch you both as you seek to serve Him through your writing.

  11. Karen Saari May 10, 2017 at 6:02 am #

    My current WIP has been a WIP for years. I kept listening to people who said, “Set a deadline. You’ll get it done.” I kept setting deadlines and every time I did, something huge and life changing happened that made it impossible to finish it. Then, in some kind of Word snafu, I lost 10,000 words – Poof! Then, I removed one story line (12,000 words) because it wasn’t going anywhere. The longer I work on my novel, the smaller it gets! But I have to finish the book. It’s third and final in a series and it must be completed. I even had to remove daily word counts and just work on it every day as much as I can. I don’t know what the deal is, but I’ve heard that voice – maybe it’s just not a big deal if you don’t finish it. I disagree.

    • Glenda May 10, 2017 at 7:14 am #

      Please finish that novel, Karen! I’m reading the first two, and can’t wait to find out the rest of the story. 🙂

    • Karen Ball May 12, 2017 at 11:10 am #

      “I even had to remove daily word counts and just work on it every day as much as I can.”

      There’s a lot of wisdom in this, Karen.

  12. Sara C. Anderson May 10, 2017 at 6:05 am #

    Thanks for the encouraging and timely post as I prep for a writer’s conference in a few weeks 🙂

  13. Sara Seese Boepple May 10, 2017 at 6:05 am #

    Trying to type past the tears in my eyes so please forgive / overlook any typos. ..
    Thank you. From the depths of my heart and soul, thank you.
    I needed to hear this. And apparently according to the comments so did many other people.

  14. Henry Styron May 10, 2017 at 6:17 am #

    I’m still trying to figure out why a pastor who has such an issue with fiction would even go to a writer’s conference. Sheesh, what a character.

    Sorry that happened to you.

    But yes, echoing the comments already given, thanks. This was a very encouraging post, and it sounds like it’s been very timely for a lot of us.

    We appreciate the time you and the others of your agency put into this blog. I know it’s not your “paying work,” but it really, really, really means a lot to us, for you to share from your heart and your expertise. God bless.

    • Carol Ashby May 10, 2017 at 10:53 am #

      Amen to us really appreciating all you do to help us, Karen!

    • LK Simonds May 11, 2017 at 9:51 am #

      “I’m still trying to figure out why a pastor who has such an issue with fiction would even go to a writer’s conference.” My thought, too! That’s pretty fishy…

      Wow, Karen, did that guy ever call up the fire in you! Preach it, sister!

      As far as truth in fiction, author Aldous Huxley had this to say in a 1960 interview with the Paris Review, “And I must say I think that probably all philosophy ought to be written in this form [fiction]; it would be much more profound and much more edifying. It’s awfully easy to write abstractly, without attaching much meaning to the big words. But the moment you have to express ideas in the light of a particular context, in a particular set of circumstances, although it’s a limitation in some ways, it’s also an invitation to go much further and much deeper.”

  15. Janetta May 10, 2017 at 6:28 am #

    Thank you for your post. Voices in my head that said I’m not good enough sidelined me for years. It’s funny when I tackled the subject, with the Lord’s help, as the subject of my book, it all made sense. That I’d been believing lies. I finished my Christian comedy and am working on Book #4. I thank the Lord everyday gor helping me breakthrough the enemy’s lies.

  16. Melissa Henderson May 10, 2017 at 6:48 am #

    Thank you for this encouraging message. A great reminder not to listen to “lies” and to listen for God’s calling on our writing. 🙂

  17. Joanna Alonzo May 10, 2017 at 6:57 am #

    I needed this so much! Makes me want to just run to the Father and cry. This has been a tough time – not just as a writer, but as a person. Thank you for this, Karen! You have been such a blessing in my life.

  18. Glenda May 10, 2017 at 7:10 am #

    After reading, Bride on the Run, it occurred to me that truth in fiction can be fun! 🙂

    Your uplifting posts urge me to yank. up. courage. Loose those binding lies.

    Many thanks!

  19. Patti Jo Moore May 10, 2017 at 7:24 am #

    Excellent and powerful post, Karen – – thank you!
    I believe that as Christian writers, we must constantly be on guard against these lies. So thank you for reminding us to stay strong against them.
    Blessings on your day! 🙂

  20. Andrew Budek-Schmeisser May 10, 2017 at 7:52 am #

    Great post, Karen, on a vital subject.

    I’m dealing with a different aspect of this; I have WIPs that need to be completed, but have not the strength or focus to do more than token work. That begs the question, why bother?

    And I think the answer is this: that the process, not the goal is important, and that process is shaping my soul. I can justify it because it makes the ‘me’ that still lives a slightly better person, day on day.

    • Glenda May 10, 2017 at 9:09 am #

      Hi, Andrew. Your post made me think of other works, (J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis) that were in progress but never finished. Are they less inspired?

      You said it well: “It’s shaping your soul. You’re alive. It’s pushing you to be a better person, day on day.”

      With gratitude for your thought-provoking, writing-stoking, and laughter-joking posts!

  21. Leslie Payne May 10, 2017 at 8:14 am #

    Amen!

  22. Edward Lane May 10, 2017 at 8:49 am #

    Thank you, Karen. I have had some of those thoughts. I love the way you quoted those Scriptures! You are obviously a real Bible scholar. I think of Christian novels as a way to follow the Great Commission! I hope God agrees. Thanks again!

  23. Joyce Erfert May 10, 2017 at 9:06 am #

    I have this verse by my computer: The Lord, the Eternal, equipped me for this job – with skilled speech, a smooth tongue for instruction. I can find the words that comfort and soothe the downtrodden, tired, and despairing. And I know when to use them. Each morning, it is God who wakes me and tells me what I should do, what I should say. (the Voice translation)

  24. Joey Rudder May 10, 2017 at 9:58 am #

    First, I’m sorry that happened to you, Karen. It made me think of a quote I recently came across by Janette Oak, “God can teach spiritual truths through fictional characters.” And isn’t that what Jesus did through His parables, as you told the pastor?

    This post helps me personally with my writing as well as those times God leads me out of my comfort zone (Sunday) and the lies begin to flow (“Just who do you think you are?”). But once I take the lies to God and His Word, they grow stale and so very small. I’m so thankful we have His truth!

    Thank you and God bless you Karen. (Been praying for you with your migraines.)

  25. Stacy T. Simmons May 10, 2017 at 10:00 am #

    Thank you Karen for writing this. It’s like a dose of spiritual Vitamin C for a writer. Have a great day!

  26. Linda May 10, 2017 at 10:06 am #

    Thank you again Karen. Learning to listen to God voice. A friend sent this to me and it has helped me a lot. Maybe it will help others as well. God’s voice stills me, leads me, reassures me, enlightens me, encourages me, comforts me, calms me, and convicts me. Satans voice pushes me, rushes me, frightens me, confuses me, discourages me, worries me, obsesses me, and condemns me.
    Blessings.

    • Peggy Booher May 12, 2017 at 10:37 am #

      Linda,

      Thank you for giving what your friend sent to you. I added that to a list of “Inspiring Quotes” I keep, and want to put it in another place to help me remember it. Thanks very much.

  27. Cynthia Mahoney /aka Claire O'Sullivan May 10, 2017 at 11:52 am #

    Hi Karen

    Steve Laube tweeted this today, and I wanted to thank you for a great article. Timely!

  28. Cathy Krafve May 10, 2017 at 12:08 pm #

    Thank you today for this powerful message.

  29. Nan Rinella May 10, 2017 at 1:54 pm #

    Who is most susceptible to those comments? Insecure people and writers, of course. Even if it’s yourself talking. Case in point, words from a giant himself—C.S. Lewis.

    In a piece titled, “Sometimes Fairy Stories May Say Best What’s to be Said,” in Of Other Worlds, he writes about “the Author” having an idea bubble up, and it’s “pawing to get out.”

    “This nags him all day long and gets in the way of his work and sleep and his meals. It’s like being in love.”

    “While the Author is in this state, the Man will of course have to criticize the proposed book from quite a different point of view. He will ask how the gratification of this impulse will fit in with all the other things he wants, and ought to do or be. Perhaps the whole thing is too frivolous and trivial (from the Man’s point of view, not the Author’s) to justify the time and pains it would involve. Perhaps it would be unedifying when it was done. Or else perhaps (at this point the Author cheers up) it looks like being ‘good’, not in a merely literary sense, but ‘good’ all around.”

    How often is it us, lying to ourselves, out of fear, halting the creativity before it has a chance to bloom?

    As to Glenda’s encouragement to Andrew, Tolkien said without Lewis’s encouragement — “he was for long my only audience… Only from him did I ever get the idea that my ‘stuff’ could be more than a private hobby. But for his interest and unceasing eagerness for more I should never have brought The L. of the R. to a conclusion.”

    • Glenda May 10, 2017 at 5:41 pm #

      Nan, thank you for the poignant post!

      And what a pertinent question: “How often is it us, lying to ourselves, out of fear, halting the creativity before it has a chance to bloom?”

      Powerful stuff, encouragement. 🙂

      Here’s to working towards bringing our WIP to their conclusions, for the good all around. 🙂

  30. Melanie Carter Winkler May 10, 2017 at 9:09 pm #

    This is so true, people don’t realise that Jesus used stories just like we fiction/novel writers do. I have a book called https://www.amazon.com.au/Manifest-Our-Call-Faithful-Creativity-ebook/dp/B00J0863NG
    I read the chapter about writing and it confirmed that what i am doing it right. I have written a few devotionals and they are true stories but God half-wrote one. I saw it and don’t remember writing it all, but re-checked the original and it was all there. God directs our writing
    To end off, my novels are not all fluff and roses, i write romances but they have to face issues that we all face. I pray that my book touches someone’s heart and that is brings them (one) closer God.

  31. Martha Whiteman Rogers May 10, 2017 at 9:36 pm #

    This is what I call “stinkin’ thinkin'” and it happens whether it’s about our writing or just who we are, how we look, what others think of us, how
    we handle situations, how we parent and on and on. If we hear a lie long enough, we will believe it.

    I had someone say almost exactly the same thing to me about writing fiction. She said it’s just trash and nothing Jesus would approve of. My answer: Then Jesus must like trash because He told a lot of stories. Her answer was EXACTLY the same as that pastor’s.

    I wait for God to give me direction before I begin any story, and He hasn’t failed me yet. My hope is to touch hearts and change lives by showing my characters making bad decisions as well as good ones.

    Thank you, Karen, for touching on this important concept.

  32. Shellie May 11, 2017 at 8:38 am #

    Oh, Karen. Thank you for this. Truly. And it’s not just these lies, it’s the lie that because what we write or what we do isn’t received by everyone, then it will be received by no one. I’m learning God doesn’t require me to be confident or fearless, but rather obedient. Confidence might come, and sometimes the fear will dissipate as I’m obedient, but focusing on obedience helps me even when those things don’t happen. Have a great day. 🙂

  33. Sheri Dean Parmelee, Ph.D May 11, 2017 at 9:01 am #

    Sooooo what was that guy doing at a writers’ conference if he didn’t believe in fiction?

  34. sj gaver May 11, 2017 at 10:00 am #

    Thank you.

  35. Peggy Booher May 11, 2017 at 10:41 am #

    Karen,

    Re: what the pastor told you at the writers’ conference about writing “lies”: for me, I can often accept truth much better when it’s in fiction than nonfiction. The truth is easier for me to see then, and it’s easier for me to “swallow”. Besides, I’ve noticed that often, even in non-fiction, authors use “human interest” stories to illustrate the points they are making. The stories are true, but they are in story form. The points are much easier to remember.

    Thanks for taking the time to pull all this together. It’s very helpful.

  36. Cindy Mahoney /aka Claire O'Sullivan May 11, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

    Hi Karen

    One lie in some circles, are fiction characters, especially the main character, must be a true believer in every way. Perhaps struggling with something in the distant past, but never again. Those that critique have been quick to note that 1. Christians don’t sin, 2. Christians never swear (I usually refer to ‘I cussed under my breath, been trying to get that under control) 3. Christians don’t drink alcohol at all, especially not in excess, 4. Christians never commit backslide and finally, 5. Christians are never tempted in any way. 6. found another one: Christians are always cheery.

    I find it difficult to read such perfection. We strive for perfection, not that we’ve found it. Jesus must not have turned water into wine (grape juice, really?), Ruth didn’t seduce Boaz while he was drunk. Paul never admonished believers to put away foul speech. Paul never told Timothy to drink a little wine (for his stomach … butterflies? Remember he was timid). No one ever admonished men and women to marry lest they burn with passion and sin. And Jesus, Paul, James, Peter, John, and the writer of Hebrews never admonished those who were falling away. Not to mention Rahab. Noah (and his wine) his daughters and their sin. The rape of Dinah. Judah. The violence committed by Simeon and Levi and the slaughter of the men of Shechem?

    So these are some of the lies I have been told by other writers, that these things would never be published in the Christian market. And it makes me wonder why non-Christians would run from the faith…

    -C

    • Damon J. Gray May 13, 2017 at 8:58 am #

      Whomever has been sucked into the lie of this level of perfection has never read Romans 7:15-24. And remember, Paul wrote that as a believer!! An Apostle, no less.

  37. Susan Gregory May 11, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

    Thank you.

  38. Penelope Childers May 12, 2017 at 7:01 am #

    I needed this one. Thank you.

  39. Robin Jones Gunn May 12, 2017 at 5:40 pm #

    Thank you for speaking truth into my writing life, my friend. You are a treasure chest filled with wisdom. I’m so grateful for you.

    • Glenda May 14, 2017 at 7:12 pm #

      Hi, Robin! Just a quick, “Hey!” from the PNW. Thrilled to see Finding Father Christmas on the HM channel this past holiday season. 🙂

  40. Damon J. Gray May 13, 2017 at 8:55 am #

    Karen, if Barnabus was the Son of Encouragement, you are definately the Daughter of Encouragement. Your blog posts are so uplifting.

    Sometimes he gets under my skin because he is so crass and raw, but on occasion I’ll listen to Tim Ferriss’ podcast, and he has shared a couple of concepts that have helped me tremendously.

    One to not listen to what he calls the obnoxious roommate. That’s the other voice in your head that says those negative things you listed above. “No one would ever read anything you write… ” That sort of garbage.

    The other one is to remember when we err, to NOT “retreat into story.” What he means by that is to jettison phrases from our vocabulary like, “Oh, I’m just so____” or “I always ____” or “I can never ____” Don’t retreat into story.

    You are a gift to the kingdom, Karen. Thank you for the constant encouragement.

  41. kim kouski May 14, 2017 at 5:11 pm #

    I ignore those stupid comments. I figure when Father God dies and puts them in charge, then yes, I will listen to them.

  42. Ben Nelson May 16, 2017 at 6:07 am #

    Your retelling of this encounter with one of the “truth guardians” put my stomach in knots. I’m so glad you were able to focus on The Truth and His heart for you and your work.

  43. Sandra Allen Lovelace May 17, 2017 at 10:07 am #

    Thank you for this frank response to the scenarios we all face. The ones I find particularly difficult are the ones that arrive in the form of ‘helpful hints’. It happened to me recently.
    Someone who’d been quite kind to me made a vague comment just before I was to speak. I said, “If this is any kind of suggestion, please save it until after my session.” She looked at me quizzically and then proceeded to share how I could maintain Holy Spirit’s influence by following her idea.
    I admit it made me pause. I wasn’t able to enter into the musical intro as I had the previous session as I went to the Lord with her words. My own prep work was confirmed and I went on as planned while she lowered her eyebrows at the audacity I had in following the instructions I’d received from higher up. 😉

  44. Cindy Mahoney /aka Claire O'Sullivan May 17, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

    Sandra,

    Wow, what an interesting experience (and I agree with you, certainly would give me pause). Heard this once, and I love it: ‘I married my wife once. When you accept the Lord into your heart – you accept the Trinity -once! You don’t have to go to a special church to feel the presence of the Holy Spirit because, He is already in your heart. You don’t keep marrying your wife over and over. The Lord directs our path, we don’t have to ‘maintain’ on our own, He guides us.’

    I am in a group for critiques online. Usually very helpful. One person said, ‘Let me address the issue. In the face. With a shotgun.’ I actually had to laugh, but the man followed me/stalked me into a Christian group and blasted my beliefs. I kept my mouth shut but two brothers in the Lord rebuked him. I forgave him in my mind and heart. In the end, he did have good comments other than that.

    My worst ever experience was a critique group of Christians. The most horrific, acidic comments that turned my stomach. (I think the killer should kill the MC and turn the gun on herself” type comments- kid you not)I rebuked them, all. I told them that I expected higher comments from Christians -not praise mind you, but comments that were useful, not damning. I said I could no longer work on the manuscript until their hateful acidic comments were out of my mind. And I did. I will never go back to that group again, and let them know why I could forgive them, but not forget, and hoped they would do what was right. Christians can be the most judgmental group of all.

    I am glad you ignored this woman. She (like so many writers who have published) have ‘the way’ to get your book published, and her ‘advice’ was more like a spiritual shaming and her attitude at the end was judgmental.

    Sorry you went through that. Glad you stuck to your guns. !!!!

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