[I’ve posted variations of this article over the years.
I hope that by bringing it back to the top of the pile, many of you new readers will see it!]
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You snagged one of those valuable 15-minute appointments with an agent or an editor at a writers conference. Now what? What do you say? How do you say it? What do I bring with me? And what does that scowling person on the other side of the table want? You’ve heard about that agent’s reputation, and you are not sure you can handle “rough and gruff.”
What if you blow it?
Let’s look at the most common questions I receive about this conference appointment.
What advice would you give a beginning writer about attending a writers conference and meeting with an editor or an agent?
The biggest mistake is thinking that this is the guaranteed method for getting a book contract and that you have one chance to make or break your entire writing dream. This puts far too much pressure on a 15-minute conversation. Modify those expectations. Instead, see it as a learning experience and a place to listen and absorb the sights and sounds around you. It can, in some ways, be a safe place to fail.
Over the years it is estimated that you’ve conducted more than 2,000 of these appointments. What are you looking for in a new author or client? Is there an element in a pitch that you look for?
This is a very difficult question. Reading anything is an extremely subjective experience. If I like the pitch, I may not like the writing. Sometimes, the pitch is weak; but the writing is great. Furthermore, what gets me excited may cause another agent’s eyes to glaze over.
In the appointment, I’m looking at the person as much as the pitch and the writing. It is the connection made with their personality and their passion and their overall presentation of themselves. That is as much a part of the pitch as the actual words in the manuscript. It is one of the reasons why agents and editors go to a conference: to see firsthand that “snap” or “spark” which makes that person stand out. Hopefully, the execution of the writing delivers as well.
Understand that I’m not saying that someone has to be a “bigger-than-life” personality. That would be a rather shallow perspective. Instead, it is reading the person behind the page. It is hard to explain and impossible to teach to someone else. Those of us on this side of the table know what I mean. The successful agents and editors have the ability to pick those few from the crowd.
So, please understand I’m not talking about a song-and-dance routine. But, instead, I’m talking of the internal fire, that God-given spark that says, “Steve? Pay attention.”
One former editor told me to start the appointment by asking the editor questions about what he/she is looking for. That really helped get the conversation going.
Every editor or agent is different. Never forget that. What one agent, like me, prefers, could be annoying to another. It is impossible to guess which way the editor/agent wants to go. So instead, just “relax” and make it your time. I often begin by saying, “What can I help you with today?”
I don’t like to have a writer ask me, “What are you looking for?” I’m looking for a great book idea with great writing … so what do you have for me?
Better to say something along the lines of “I’ve prepared my proposal and some sample chapters. May I practice my pitch on you?” !! Okay, maybe not the most confident sounding thing, but you get the drift? This is about you, not about me. I want to hear what you have to say. I’ve already bored myself with my own opinions of myself.
What is the one thing that drives you crazy about people when they pitch? What is the one thing you wish they would do?
On the one hand is the person who tries to tell their entire novel or book idea with excruciating detail, barely taking a breath while talking. That is either a case of nerves or a case of failing to practice ahead of time.
On the other hand is the person who is so precise that they sit down, smile, and hit me with their 25-word blurb. Then they close their mouth and expectantly wait for my august pronouncement as if that is considered a conversation. That “interview” has lasted for all of two minutes at that point, and the silence is rather awkward. (Realize I haven’t read anything yet.)
The key is a strong balance between being over eager and talkative and the sterile precision of a practiced speaker. Remember, this is a conversation. I am not only listening to your pitch, I’m also listening to you. I am also meeting you.
But if I say, “No. This doesn’t work for me,” that doesn’t mean I don’t like you. It is like the sidewalk vendor who shows me their turquoise jewelry and I say, “No thanks. Not today.” I am declining a business proposition, not crushing your soul.
Is there any unwritten protocol you can use to clue us in?
Use your common sense. The jokes about slipping a proposal under a bathroom stall door are based on fact. Imagine my surprise while standing in the bathroom doing my business when a fellow comes up to me and starts pitching his book idea. I turned my head and sternly had to say, “Not now! Do you really want me to associate your book idea with this experience?”
At one conference, a woman followed me into the men’s room while making her pitch. I had to ask her if she would mind waiting outside for a moment.
I’ll never forget another lady who came up to the appointment table, stood over me, and shook a finger, saying, “Now you be nice to me!” And then gestured aggressively at another editor in the room and said, “Because that man over there made me cry.” I timidly asked her to take a seat.
Once, a writer was so nervous about the appointment that the moment she sat down, she burst into tears.
My advice to every writer is to r-e-l-a-x. Be yourself. The editor/agent is not necessarily an ogre. (However, after watching me at a writers conference a few years ago, Thomas Umstattd gave me the title “The Harbinger of Grim Reality” or “ogre” for short. Gee, thanks, Thomas.)
If you run into an editor/agent in the hall or the elevator, it’s okay to talk to them! We are not rock-star celebrities, for goodness sake. We have come to the conference with the goal to find new talent and to nurture relationships.
Try not to argue with the editor/agent. It’s okay to disagree and state your case; but if you let it devolve into a snit, you need to apologize–and so does the editor/agent. Civility should reign. I’m not asking for a debate if I make a statement regarding the market’s receptivity to your book idea. (“You don’t understand. My book is so much better than that bestseller!”) I’m merely expressing my observations about the marketplace.
It’s been said that some editors and agents request everything pitched to them at a conference. What is your take on this, and how often do you make requests?
There can be the problem of the “false positive” at a conference. By “false positive” I mean the editor/agent says, “Send it to me,” only to later send a stock rejection letter. It is a problem of which there is no real solution. Editors/agents cannot fully evaluate a project in a 15-minute meeting, or walking down a hallway, or over a group dinner table. Back in the office they can weigh your project against the others they are considering. But at least you are being considered! If you had not gone to the conference, you would not have had that chance. I can name numerous times in my past where I contracted someone after reading the proposal in the office. Of course, the majority receive the “no thank you” letter. Just because the faculty member says, “send it,” doesn’t carry with it a guarantee of a sale.
It is especially difficult with fiction because the reading is more of an experience than an evaluation. I’m not afraid to say, “This needs work” to any writer; and many of you reading this blog have heard those words from me. But at the same time, our agency’s door is always open. We are always in the hunt for the “next best.” I can’t know if that is the “next” unless I get it reviewed and read it myself in a different context outside the conference.
Have you ever signed an author after meeting with them at a conference?
Many, many times. Both as an agent and back when I was an editor at Bethany House. It does happen. I can safely say that every editor or agent would agree that if they find one (only one) new talent from a conference, it is considered a success.
I’ve had many times where nothing specific came out of that conference, but years later it bore fruit. For example, Paul Robertson attended a conference where I spoke in the late 90s. He said he sent something afterward that I rejected. Eight years later he sent me a proposal that was published (The Heir) with Bethany House. So while I didn’t necessarily see anything at the time, it had results nearly 10 years later.
Have you ever rejected someone who later became a successful author?
Of course! Ask any editor/agent about the one they let get away. They’ll be “happy” to tell you their story. Spend some time among successful authors and some will point to me and say, “He turned me down.” (Yes, I see you over there, Lynette Eason.)
A lot of writers deserve their initial rejections! Often, they start out with a half-baked pitch or with an idea that just landed on the bestseller list written by another author.
Andrew Budek-Schmeisser
You’ve snagged that bright brass ring appointment,
and now you’re shaking in your shoes,
asking that God’s grace be lent…
so much to gain, so much to lose!
Add for the latter, ‘so it seems’;
it’s process, not a one-shot deal.
It builds foundation for your dreams,
so don’t let the hyperbolic steal
the magic of time you’ll spend
with a master of the art.
Learn, that you may comprehend
how you, too, can play a part
in the grand beguiling game
where you’ll find grace, and maybe fame.
Becky Antkowiak
New writers (and maybe not-so-new writers) should print this on a little card to keep in a pocket during a conference:
But if I say, “No. This doesn’t work for me,” that doesn’t mean I don’t like you. It is like the sidewalk vendor who shows me their turquoise jewelry and I say, “No thanks. Not today.” I am declining a business proposition, not crushing your soul.
Excellent reminder.
Theresa Pierce
I agree. I’m still leaving my craft. Malcom Gladwell said they call the Beatles an overnight success. They were hard workers in England before they came to America.
Theresa Pierce
learning not leaving 🤣
Tina Friesen
Hi Steve,
This year I self published my only novel. I started it before cell phones were in use. Lol! I was told about a decade ago that it was “not suitable” for Bethany’s house. Where do I find a qualified person to give me a proper review/critique? I pitched my novel and had considerable interest at conferences, although I assume it wasn’t quite “ready” at the time. Now people are begging for a sequel but I want to hear from a professional. I recently read a self published novel that made me cringe. We can be blind to our faults. Yet her readers “loved” her book and a few had read it three times! So, I wouldn’t trust her audience to review my book. Haha! I am a journalist (see my substack) and don’t know if I’ve made the transition to novel writing effectively. In the duration of my writing career I have learned so much and am grateful that I have taken the time to “polish” my novel to this point, however I feel like I need someone to grade my work now.
Deena Adams
I attended my first writers conference six months after I started writing and gained so much encouragement during my meeting with an agent from your agency. When he asked me to send my proposal, I was both excited and terrified. I didn’t even know what a proposal was at that point. The agent was so encouraging and complimented my writing sample, which boosted my weak confidence.
I worked and studied hard and finally emailed him my proposal about four months later. I was so relieved to receive a very nice rejection. LOL. I was nowhere near ready for publication then.
I’m thankful for the confirmation from God at that conference to keep writing, and today, five years later, I’m ready for that book contract!
Kristen Joy Wilks
Relaxing and just talking to the editor or agent like a person! Volunteering at your conference can also help you see who these people are in a less stressful way so that when it is time to pitch, you already know them as people.
Roberta Sarver
Several years ago, I had a one-on-one interview with Bob Hostetler at my first writers conference. I was a newbie and had little idea the correct protocol to follow. Bob was very gentle and kind as he offered practical suggestions for improvement. It must be quite a tightrope for an agent to walk, and I’ve always been grateful for his gracious spirit.
Molly McTernan
This was such a wonderful post and I loved hearing the faith process behind when you take on new authors. I’ll be practicing pitching this summer, and will be keeping this post in mind while I’m preparing for that. Thank you!
Pam Halter
Authors (especially new authors) can also use a 15 minute appointment to ask for advice instead of pitching an idea. I’ve done that a lot.
I’ve asked, “Is this idea marketable?” Also, “Is this idea appropriate for the age group I’m targeting?”
One time, I met with Steve at Realm Makers and asked for help on my proposal that another agent asked for. That was a great help for me even though the agent passed.
I’ve also been on faculty and had authors meet with me. Not for pitching, but for observations and help on their manuscript. I can safely say MOST of us are at conferences because we want to help others. Still, I understand the nervousness. It’s like auditioning for a play. Talk about nerve wracking!
Actually, auditioning for a play could be great practice for pitching a book idea. haha!