I think it is a mistake to reveal how much money you make as an author. The details of your royalty advance on your latest deal should not be shared with other authors. It is similar to finding out the salary of the co-worker in the office cubicle next to yours. When I was a retail store manager, we had major problems when salaries were discovered. I had to physically stop a near fistfight between two employees who had been friends. It was a veritable mess.
(By the way, the numbers I use in this post are complete fiction. I made them up on the spot as representative of income sources and income timing. To compare one to another is like comparing an apple to a carrot and proclaiming, “They came from the same grocery store. So, they must be the same!”)
Money Can be a Measure of Worth
Money is viewed by many as a measure of worth; i.e., a measure of the worthiness of your work. Consequently, if you contract for a $5,000 advance with AlphaGammaDelta publisher and a month later, your best writing friend, who is at the same stage in her career as you are, contracts for a $8,000 advance with the same publisher for a similar project, what is your reaction? Sure, at first, it is excitement and joy for your friend. But later, in private, you will naturally begin to wonder about your publisher’s commitment to you. You think, They must like Sally better than me! Jealousy and bitterness can set in.
I’m not saying that this will happen to you, but I caution you with every ounce of my being, be very careful about ever revealing monetary details of a book contract with anyone. It can become a form of gossip that does no one any good. I know of an email trail among authors that was very free with this kind of information; and, consequently, there was tension toward a particular publisher for not paying everyone the same.
Over the years, I’ve seen a few thousand book contracts. Those deals have landed all over the board. The timing of a publisher’s economic situation and certain management directives can change quarterly (even weekly!). The relationship the author has with the publisher, the relationship the agent has with the publisher, the perception of value that the publisher has of a project–they all influence each situation uniquely.
But we tend to compare contracts as if all contracts are equal. Trust me, they are not.
Also be aware that some contracts have a nondisclosure clause in them for this very reason.
A Major Blunder in Etiquette
Years ago, I was sharing the stage with several faculty members at a writers conference for a panel Q&A. One author took the microphone and, without thinking, blurted out the amount of money they were paid on their last contract. There was an uncomfortable silence in the room since no one really knew how to react.
Afterward, an editor turned to me and said, “I never want to work with that author. There’s no filter, nor is there any common sense.”
I Just Want to Help Others Know
As far as sharing your successes as an indie author? Again, be careful. You may want to help others succeed like you have. That is admirable. But at least limit your information to things other than your income. Sharing what you spent on editorial, production, cover design, and marketing can be helpful for comparison. But declaring that you made a million dollars last month might not be the right message for your audience.
Consider our human frailties. We will often use the publisher’s advance (the initial investment amount paid by the publisher prior to publication) as a measure of worth or value.
Imagine that author WOW gets a $2,500 advance and author STET gets a $4,000 advance; both are debut novelists and both are with the same publisher. Author STET posts on Facebook with excitement that they got a $4,000 advance from WannBe Publishing.
Author WOW sees that post and wonders why they only got $2,500 from WannBe. “It’s not fair! I’m a better writer than STET! My publisher must hate me! My agent is a failure! My career is over before it started! My publisher won’t promote my work as much as author STET! I’m mad! I’m sad!” Etc.
Author STET has no idea how crushing their detailed news was to author WOW.
How Am I Supposed to Know What’s Normal?
One cannot analyze or compare their own income, contract, advances, or royalties with absolute accuracy.
Recently I was asked, “What does the average author make in a year?” Instead of answering, I asked in return, “What do you think?” They responded, “$45,000 per year?”
I had to blink a few times and said, “That might be an average if you include a number of bestselling authors in the formula. But that also means there are a lot of others who would have to drop a zero from that number (down to $4,500) to create an average of $45,000.”
I then told the story of a writer who had a day job unrelated to writing but wrote 10 published books by getting up at 5 a.m. every morning to write for two hours–and then helped the kids get ready for school and then went to work. For that writer, books were a supplement to his income, not the primary source.
— One author may get a onetime deal for $15,000 but never write another book.
— Another author may write one book every two years, with each getting a $5,000 advance, but also publish 30 paid articles a year.
— A third author may write a novel once every five years and nothing in-between, but their advance for their novel is $100,000.
— A fourth author may be prolific and publish eight novels a year, four with a traditional publisher and four as an indie author with an annual combined income of $60,000.
Which one is normal?
You see the problem? There isn’t a straight answer to the question of what is normal when it comes to a writer’s income. Your agent is the best source of information. The agent knows what is typical in a situation and whether your deal is a good one or not.
Freelance Editors
Many freelance editors find that they need to post their prices on their web site to help prospective customers. However, some freelancers prefer to keep their pricing list private and only share it with prospective customers who ask.
Neither way is wrong. It is a personal preference.
But if said freelancer announces, “I made $197,000 last year as a freelance editor!” it might not endear them to their colleagues. Instead, the monster of envy will rise from the emotional ashes.
We Demand Equal Pay!
The writing world isn’t the same as having a job in a corporation or a government institution where there can be issues about equal pay for equal work. The idea of equal pay in those institutional environs can be fraught with misunderstanding since one has to define “equal work” and “equal pay” and “equal seniority” every time.
Look again at the example above with two author friends who find out that one received one advance and the other received a different one. The one getting the smaller amount is placing their “worth” on what they perceive as an objective criterion. Jealousy and disappointment reign. And thus, the need to keep your business to yourself (and with your agent).
Meanwhile, the bottom line is to keep your bottom line to yourself and be content with it being normal for you.


Good advice, Steve, not only for book deals, but labor in general. As a Christian, I believe that God is working his best in my life–his best includes my income. God doesn’t measure my value in dollars, and he doesn’t compare us via some spreadsheet. He knows my heart and my weak spots. The Book of Wisdom gives us the guidelines (Proverbs 30:8-9):
“Give me neither poverty nor riches,
but give me only my daily bread.
Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you
and say, ‘Who is the Lord?’
Or I may become poor and steal,
and so dishonor the name of my God.”
Give me too much, and I may say, “Look what I did!” and disown my God.
It is not be what you receive,
but what you choose to give
if you own what you believe,
if in Christ you live.
Don’t boast with the grandest car,
or with a showy home.
Just strive to be the man you are,
that you need not atone
in future days of when you bragged
and wore the jeweled phylacteries
that instantly did have you tagged
as one of the proud Pharisees
painted as a tomb so white
that hid within a dreadful sight.
Fantastic, well-witten article.
Great topic to address. I saw this (and felt it) many times throughout my corporate career. That old “root of all evil” is at it again seeking to discourage and divide. And yes, the wise person keeps their mouth shut. Well said and thank you for the reminder. Will keep that gazillion — or not– $$-info quiet when it hits.
Are literary agents part of the Anthropic lawsuit and are they part of the settlement?
My understanding is that the publishing company and the author splits the money 50/50.
Where do literary agents come in?
Lila,
Your question is a good one, if a bit off-topic.
Agent participation in the Anthropic case depends on each individual contracted book. The agent is not a copyright holder and thus is not included.
However, an agent receives a percentage of an author’s earnings when the author is under a publisher’s contract in which the agency is the “agent-of-record.”
Every publisher will handle any monies sent to them by Anthropic as part of the settlement in its own way. There will be no standard.
Some may pass 100% of the settlement to the author (with a % going to the agent). Some may treat the income as normal subsidiary rights income (like licenses for foreign rights) and retain the percentage in the contract for such income (typically half), the balance going to the author (and a % going to the agent).
If the author’s advance has not earned out, then the publisher may apply the revenue toward earning out that advance. This means the author will not see any money…today. But the book may earn back the advance sooner because of the new revenue.
If the publication rights to the author’s book have reverted to the author, meaning there isn’t a “publisher” anymore, then the monies would go directly to the author. Some may choose to send a percentage to their agent who originally sold the book to the publisher; others may not. If the book has always been independently published, the money would go to that author direct.
Thus, nothing about this will be straightforward for anyone. Each situation will be determined by a variety of factors.
In other words, nobody knows. I pray that people will be gracious when all of this plays out. But when money is involved, emotions can run high.
Thanks for the advice! It’s a trend right now for writers to share how much they make, at least for Indie authors. I hadn’t thought about it from this perspective. It’s not just the author who’s at stake, but the publishers, editors, agents, etc.
While detailed, your article today was well worth the read. Thanks. I’m in agreement, if that matters.
Wise advice.
We never outgrow comparison and competition…
Good morning,
Great article and outside the box thinking for your blog. I owned a forestry business for 20 years and employees talking about money always lead to irreconcilable problems, usually caused by a difference of 50 cents per hour.
I am a new author who has been working on platform and self-publishing works on Amazon to build a foundation for a hopeful career. My head is down and I work hard, attend conferences when I can, and am always consuming teaching on craft.
That’s the best strategy to get started that I know of, letting God handle the rest.
Thanks for the work you all do.
Chris
http://www.SingWriteRead.com
Excellent explanation on a difficult topic, Steve! Thanks!
Excellent advice, Steve. When I was in college for my undergraduate degrees, the faculty’s salaries were published in the university newspaper once a year. I wonder how the profs felt about each other, seeing those numbers.
Great advice. I was in an online writer group years ago when that very thing happened and it got very messy. I don’t have a book out yet, but when I do, I won’t be sharing that kind of information with anyone.
Very good advice. Here’s one that still steams me. As a soon-to-be former career state employee, some news outlets (who shall remain nameless) decided it was perfectly acceptable to post our salaries online. Really? That was my reaction. First, I do see salaries for jobs in general as private. Second, it revealed some gross pay inequities and didn’t engender warm fuzzies toward our agency’s HR folks. So, just sayin’, don’t brag about salaries, pay, etc. It’s just not classy.